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obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000 assyrians -- syrians are dead. >> what will you do differently? you never answer the question. you don't go through the un. that we have been in the process and have been for months to make sure that humanitarian aid as well as other aid is getting to the forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the free forces inside of syria. that is under way. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as the arab allies in terms of trying to get a settle. that was their idea. we are the ones that said enough.
obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000...
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to overthrow assad at the same time all we can see that moscow is keeping washington in check and we can see also regionally that saudi arabia egypt and qatar and turkey are are keeping iran in check and vice versa so it's essentially a stalemate i think that this conflict looks likely to drag on until exhaustion comes into play ok so you're saying the biggest losers so far are the syrian people because outside forces are arming rebels. i think that the biggest losers are the arabs in general the arabs have been suffering from repeated wars in the region from the from from the one nine hundred eighty s. the lebanese civil war the iraq the iraq war the iraqi wars in the one nine hundred ninety s. then and now we have this so the arabs are continuously being undermined by these regional conflicts undermining their prospects for democracy for a forum for economic prosperity and until these regional war stop the arabs will continue to suffer not just the syrians but also the lebanese the iraqis now the turks and the arabs more generally mind you what's the next step in your mind where sh
to overthrow assad at the same time all we can see that moscow is keeping washington in check and we can see also regionally that saudi arabia egypt and qatar and turkey are are keeping iran in check and vice versa so it's essentially a stalemate i think that this conflict looks likely to drag on until exhaustion comes into play ok so you're saying the biggest losers so far are the syrian people because outside forces are arming rebels. i think that the biggest losers are the arabs in general...
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was that directly from assad? it is a coincident that when he was threatened he ordered an immediate attack on hamas. they killed about 20,000 people in one attack as you know, but most of 1882. he then had our problems. the shower has been different. he's engaged in the slower machiavellian but they killed about 20,000 people in 18 months. but is still 20,000 people dead or mubarak didn't kill 20,000 people. so how did bashar make that final step to the dark side, which is i will kill and i will kill until he no longer challenge because he must know is everyone in the alouette community must know, there's no going back. if they lose power, they will be slaughtered. so how did he make that final step to the dark side? >> welcome you hit on one of the main points, which is they see this as an existential contrast. this is something that there is no turning back on each side right now. for me, the answer to that is twofold. one, i think he really still believes from day one that he is saving the country, that he is
was that directly from assad? it is a coincident that when he was threatened he ordered an immediate attack on hamas. they killed about 20,000 people in one attack as you know, but most of 1882. he then had our problems. the shower has been different. he's engaged in the slower machiavellian but they killed about 20,000 people in 18 months. but is still 20,000 people dead or mubarak didn't kill 20,000 people. so how did bashar make that final step to the dark side, which is i will kill and i...
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assad is fulfilling his father's dream? that was the whole thing, that he went in and he ruthlessly got rid of people. now we have the same thing going on, which seems pretty silly. so almost a psychological thing. >> you know, that's a good question. i remember responding to some question recently in some interview, a similar type question, and it got me to think, and i wonder. the question i would like to ask bashar if i saw him today, mr. president, so do you think you understand why your father did what he did in 1982? to think of by a nest in that question -- in some ways i did earlier on command the kind of aborted it the type to mark another path. now i understand. unloading accomplices, the this is necessary. yes, this is a necessary evil, and necessary thing to keep the country together over the long term, and that thing that is probably how he sees it. and it is a shame. i mean, obviously. >> do you take that he would ever unleash chemical warfare? and do you think one reason he does not do it is because that woul
assad is fulfilling his father's dream? that was the whole thing, that he went in and he ruthlessly got rid of people. now we have the same thing going on, which seems pretty silly. so almost a psychological thing. >> you know, that's a good question. i remember responding to some question recently in some interview, a similar type question, and it got me to think, and i wonder. the question i would like to ask bashar if i saw him today, mr. president, so do you think you understand why...
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of friends of syria saying assad must go ok it's almost the cheer you're hearing right now how do you know there is a difference here between what the street believes i think and certain vested interests. i think that we look we have to distinguish two things one is diplomatic condemnation and actually taking active policies to depose the assad regime beyond economic sanctions and diplomatic condemnation we don't see western powers really doing much to overthrow the assad regime in addition i would also add that israel is not preoccupied with syria at all it's mostly preoccupied with the iranian nuclear program you barely hear any any comments from the israeli government on the current events in syria ok or maybe they're just preoccupied with the round my did what do you think about that i mean even if assad goes what changes in syria and no one ever talks about that scenario go ahead i think the one of the important is the regional aspect if we have a proxy war in syria this is the war scenario i think iran is a master full of making proxies in countries it made the proxy in lebanon
of friends of syria saying assad must go ok it's almost the cheer you're hearing right now how do you know there is a difference here between what the street believes i think and certain vested interests. i think that we look we have to distinguish two things one is diplomatic condemnation and actually taking active policies to depose the assad regime beyond economic sanctions and diplomatic condemnation we don't see western powers really doing much to overthrow the assad regime in addition i...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own country? >> in its own country and it doesn't want to see sunni political excitement built to its which could resonate to russia. the russias are looking at turkey's piftd and turkey has come back closer to the united states and they're not krtable with that because they saw nato and turkey and the united states get together and take out qaddafi and they don't want that to happen again to another ally. last but not least this is also putin's primal fear that if he sets up a precedent of supporting an uprising and the international community to back that uprising, th
>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own...
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then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n. that, bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.d n. we are in the process now and have been for months, in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks,
then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited...
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landing in turkey may be coming from weapons that itself provided to syrian rebels fighting bashar al assad that is according to a turkish newspaper this together with suggestions that kurdish separatists are mobilizing inside syria threatens to leave turkey in an awkward diplomatic position middle east correspondent paula she's got the latest on this. what we've witnessed now is five days of increasing conflict along the turkish syrian border at the same time we've seen shelling now taking place from both sides and there's real concern in the region that we could be looking at a full scale war between turkey and syria that started last week wednesday when a shell was fired from the syrian side into turkish territory and they had killed five members of the same family now the turkish prime minister erdogan has gone on record by saying that his country is ready for war and this follows the approval of a mandate last week by the turkish parliament in which they did give the green light for cross border operations but it's not as if the whole turkish population is behind the prime minister on
landing in turkey may be coming from weapons that itself provided to syrian rebels fighting bashar al assad that is according to a turkish newspaper this together with suggestions that kurdish separatists are mobilizing inside syria threatens to leave turkey in an awkward diplomatic position middle east correspondent paula she's got the latest on this. what we've witnessed now is five days of increasing conflict along the turkish syrian border at the same time we've seen shelling now taking...
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syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those laws that i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those who are also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers cross he is holding an army just fifteen kilometers from the take the border now the fight to look just concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take advantage of the situation they've already claimed several cities there to take the ptolemy they want independence from damascus but they have also not becoming a problem for two. taking of course is no stranger to the kurdish problem just overnight turkish jets were firing at kurdish turnout in northern iraq so here too you have a situation where turkey in its assistance to the rebels to fight aside is now having to fight the kurds and seen an escalation in that problem as well. and a change of calls the in the middle east later we look at mitt romney's criticism of you is point policy and why
syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those laws that i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those who are also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers cross he is holding an army just fifteen kilometers from the take the border now the fight to look just concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds...
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border had been wiped while she was in custody some believe still ji towards president assad has little to do with the situation in syria and everything to do with iran's ambitions i was devilish in this country as a major political player turkey is preparing itself for its one hundredth anniversary and twenty twenty four it was the whole campaign of a very ambitious platform of how turkey is building self-reliance is going to position itself as a global power conquer rise establishing itself as a regional boss threatening a whole lot worse with syria and openly violating iraqi sovereignty by bombing kurdish bases not exactly what bomb but all feats of diplomacy so when turkish officials to speak of peace and stability in the region their words are drowned out by the sound of an exchange of fire with their neighbors in tel aviv r.t. . the u.n. arab league envoy to syria has drawn up plans for a three thousand strong peacekeeping force that could involve european troops in policing a future truce installed british and u.s. forces would be unlikely to. countries like germany and france co
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uses that to scare americans all after the after assad has been overthrown then the horrible islamicist are there so the us are going to step in and take over syria or do it through france turkey would also like to rejuvenate the ottoman empire i mean they they still remember that syria was part of the ottoman empire so with lebanon so it was iraq i'm a huge of it and so forth so right to have their own of their own all the time we have. added our of blue rockwell a dot com as well as writer and founder of the ludwig von mises institute thank you so much for your time thank you. now we are closely following developments as they unfold and we'll update you in a few minutes of more of the details from our washington correspondent you can. meanwhile iraq's prime minister who is in moscow speaks out against a potential nato intervention in syria under the guise of protecting the reach of a report on that is coming up. in moscow appeals court has free to one of the jailed members of the notorious pussy riot punk band. but up held the two year sentence for the two others the three women were
uses that to scare americans all after the after assad has been overthrown then the horrible islamicist are there so the us are going to step in and take over syria or do it through france turkey would also like to rejuvenate the ottoman empire i mean they they still remember that syria was part of the ottoman empire so with lebanon so it was iraq i'm a huge of it and so forth so right to have their own of their own all the time we have. added our of blue rockwell a dot com as well as writer...
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towards president assad has little to do with the situation in syria and everything to do with ambitions i was devilish in this country as a major political player turkey's preparing itself for its one hundredth anniversary in twenty twentieth's but it was the whole campaign of a very ambitious platform of how turkey is building some phone lines is going to position itself as a global power conquer rise establishing itself as a regional boss threatening a full out war with syria and openly violating iraqi sovereignty by bombing kurdish bases not exactly what bomb but all feats of diplomacy so in turkish officials to speak of peace and stability in the region their words are drowned out by the sound of an exchange of fire with their neighbors in tel aviv r.t. . to move against syria as part of a long running nato effort to great and an excuse for military intervention this is according to a u.s. based whistleblower a simple. preparation by u.s. and nato and their turkish partner turkey in may two thousand and eleven sixteen seventeen months ago in december two thousand and eleven another
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seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no list vigorously through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to fulfill the goal of defeating iran's blatant but straightforward remark basically expressing the same opportunistic approach to foreign policy with the u.s. has had for many years while obama campaign called romney reckless and amateurish when it comes to foreign policy so far the administration has stopped short of directly arming the rebels although washington is coordinating the efforts of their allies in the region that is saudi arabia qatar turkey which are providing weapons to the rebels one way or another but those allies are saying that they only provide smaller weapons that they would love to send heavy artillery but they don't have the green light from washington for that because reportedly th
seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no list vigorously through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to fulfill the goal of defeating iran's blatant but straightforward remark basically expressing the same...
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rebels find him in syria he says that they have captured the cousin of the syrian president bashar assad we have no information on that at this stage and no way of actually being able to independently prove it russia continues to play a mediating role they are. expecting that the e.u. in nato envoy to syria could be in russian they say this month and as such will be there for talks but russia is edging calm and saying that this kind of escalation in tensions along the take a syrian border is completely unacceptable in any kind of cross border operations halt to be found upon political analysts shall we no one e s says turkey has been cradling the ideal direct action against syria and pull long time turkey has declared war on syria long time ago this is aragon endeavor to lose war they've supplied weapons and they've supplied training assistant they've harbored you know gunmen in jihad just on their territory so so you know turkey's at a situation now crossroads where they cannot seem to get the international system fail need to sort of you know do a last question against the assad regime
rebels find him in syria he says that they have captured the cousin of the syrian president bashar assad we have no information on that at this stage and no way of actually being able to independently prove it russia continues to play a mediating role they are. expecting that the e.u. in nato envoy to syria could be in russian they say this month and as such will be there for talks but russia is edging calm and saying that this kind of escalation in tensions along the take a syrian border is...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic and its, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion. p
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those laws that i wanted situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers cross he is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the taker's border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take advantage of the situation there already claimed several cities there take a ton of meat they want independence from damascus but they have also now becoming a problem for turkey turkey of course is no stranger to the kurdish problem just overnight turkey's jets were firing at kurdish products in northern iraq so he had to you have a situation where turkey in its assistance to the rebels to fight assad is now having to fight we could see and see an escalation in that problem as well. no website right now is. the libyan military continues to surround an opposition stronghold leaving the residents
syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those laws that i wanted situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers cross he is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the taker's border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds...
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. >> but president assad is not interested in a political solution. >> that is why the international community must increase the pleasure on the regime. the thing -- the pressure on the regime. the thing about geneva, it is extremely important. we are supporting this action and this is an element of the conversation. >> you must have also talked about iran. what can you tell us about the new sanctions against iran that the european union is likely to announce next rate? what will they be? >> the goal is to increase the pressure so of the iranian regime will finally come to the negotiating table with substantive ideas on how to stop the enrichment of uranium to a level that is incompatible with the civilian nuclear program. sanctions are probably going to be an chris. -- increase. >> is there anything about which areas? >> the financial sector. these are possibilities to be considered. >> thank you for joining us in the studio. greg thank you. >> still to come on tonight's program -- 50 years after the cuban missile crisis, the bbc has exclusive access to information that reveals it w
. >> but president assad is not interested in a political solution. >> that is why the international community must increase the pleasure on the regime. the thing -- the pressure on the regime. the thing about geneva, it is extremely important. we are supporting this action and this is an element of the conversation. >> you must have also talked about iran. what can you tell us about the new sanctions against iran that the european union is likely to announce next rate? what...
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after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n., that bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the numentd u.n. and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months nmaking sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks, the injuredanians and the s
after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no,...
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during the past twelve months there's only one contender for the peace prize this year and that's julian assad and the fact that he did not win this prize is will be in a terminal stain on the nobel committee no one has done more to push peace than julian assange should be getting the so war from this committee the fact that they turn to a bunch of machines and technocrats and the a hero is an embarrassment they should go back to making dynamite. this award is even more questionable to some because of the e.u. is rather dubious peacemaking record and that moreover the current financial turmoil is the biggest danger to peace europe has been bombing libya europe has been bombing syria europe isn't bombing afghanistan or iraq yugoslavia a few years ago yes it's because they're trying to say ok guys we're giving you a whole year together europe has been spending money they don't have that's going to have to stop that is going to cause more riots in the streets more social unrest more governments failing perhaps even countries failing and perhaps even people pulling out of the euro could lead to wa
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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly. what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >> what is the national security of the american people? it has to be in the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national sec
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq,...
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towards president assad has little to do with the situation in syria and everything to do with iran's ambitions i was devilish in this country as a major political player turkey's preparing itself for its one hundredth anniversary twenty twenty three it was the whole campaign of a very ambitious platform of how turkey is being sent from the lines it's going to position itself as a global power conquer rise establishing itself as a regional boss threatening a whole lot worse with syria and openly violating iraqi sovereignty by bombing kurdish bases not exactly what bomb but all feats of diplomacy so in turkish officials to speak of peace and stability in the region their words are drowned out by the sound of an exchange of fire with their neighbors in tel aviv r.t. . and you can find the full timeline all don't go in conflict in syria on our web site dot com expert opinion extensive analysis on the latest news i will waiting for you that. and also the last her a as you as a space shuttle endeavor makes its final journey to the california science center where are the pictures on. the ra
towards president assad has little to do with the situation in syria and everything to do with iran's ambitions i was devilish in this country as a major political player turkey's preparing itself for its one hundredth anniversary twenty twenty three it was the whole campaign of a very ambitious platform of how turkey is being sent from the lines it's going to position itself as a global power conquer rise establishing itself as a regional boss threatening a whole lot worse with syria and...